tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post4228318662118363364..comments2024-03-22T18:15:57.909-04:00Comments on A Haven for Vee: Downton Abbey Discussion Episode 6Veehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00618654361869856894noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-10388112179049359872014-02-13T08:47:29.000-05:002014-02-13T08:47:29.000-05:00Haha. Well, maybe, if Gregson were his great nephe...Haha. Well, maybe, if Gregson were his great nephew or something. But some little tiny thing was said in the last episode that led me to believe that Gregson isn't all we thought he was. Or that maybe he was more than we thought he was. I can't wait to find out!Cranberry Morninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10758563068581561194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-38458951934228158152014-02-07T12:57:48.112-05:002014-02-07T12:57:48.112-05:00I agree with Judy that some children need more lov...I agree with Judy that some children need more loving than others and therefore it may seem that one child is the favorite. I know I've been told that I love one child more than the other--and it was by both of my children at different times in their lives..lol...so yes, it's true but not meant to be in nay way a measure of how I love them both. Same with my grandchildren. It was a lovely scene in the nursery and I think it signals that all three were at a point in theri mourning that they now feel they can move on towards the future and a future love. I do see the foreshadowing of a romance between Mary and either Blake and Napier--time will tell! Edith's situation is the most dramatic of all this season--I hope it has a good story end!Pat @ Mille Fiori Favoritihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08922525910685129822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-11913832976966503512014-02-06T18:42:35.575-05:002014-02-06T18:42:35.575-05:00--this was a funny coinkydink--Elizabeth McGovern(...--this was a funny coinkydink--Elizabeth McGovern(cora) was in a movie called :"ragtime" and another movie "Once upon a time in america' that takes place partially around a lot of ragtime music. I am too old to remember all this. I love the nursery time that Tom, Isabel, Mary shared and loved when Tom told Isabel he now loved his family.PJ Geekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16550278783075004470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-55086989964314348862014-02-06T11:35:49.257-05:002014-02-06T11:35:49.257-05:00So much packed into one episode...and yet it felt ...So much packed into one episode...and yet it felt as though it ended almost before it started. My favorite scene was where Cora intervened at the restaurant. I am not sure we can love all our children equally...but I try. Each one is so different from the other...and some seem to need a little more loving. Judy https://www.blogger.com/profile/00929685771427155673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-54479439374093368862014-02-05T19:12:42.086-05:002014-02-05T19:12:42.086-05:00Why, now that you mention it! I'll see if I ca...Why, now that you mention it! I'll see if I can find comparison photos. I've got the letter to put in, too.Veehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00618654361869856894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-17525438776980804722014-02-05T18:54:34.502-05:002014-02-05T18:54:34.502-05:00BTW, is anyone else struck by the physical similar...BTW, is anyone else struck by the physical similarity between Sir Anthony Strallan played by Robert Bathurst and Michael Gregson played by Charles Edwards? Is Lady Edith attracted to a certain type? Dou you think this was done on purpose? I want better things for Edith. She has come a long way.Thickethouse.wordpresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17187303460677067276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-72200343311334083082014-02-05T17:52:09.302-05:002014-02-05T17:52:09.302-05:00I feel sorry for Edith. Her own prickliness seems ...I feel sorry for Edith. Her own prickliness seems to prevent others from loving her as she desires to be loved. I'm also irritated with her feeling sorry for herself so often. That also makes it difficult for others to like, if not love her.<br />I'm so glad Cheryl said what she did. I, too, cannot imagine loving one of my children more than another. However, there are times when I like one more, enjoy one more, ache for one more, or pray for one more. I do know families where preferences are clearly made and I find it so damaging to the children who are not the favorite. <br />The nursery scene was just lovely with those two darling children and a glimpse into the hearts of those who have loved and lost. <br />Cora in the restaurant - brilliant. At last. She's seemed to be a bit of a ditz at times, it was nice to see her step up to the plate. Lorriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03653026442945027184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-15030633595440713152014-02-05T17:12:53.337-05:002014-02-05T17:12:53.337-05:00Oh yes...I loved the restaurant scene and that Cor...Oh yes...I loved the restaurant scene and that Cora intervened on the Bates' behalf. I love all my children but I think I love them differently because they are different from each other. I'm pulling for Mr. Blake!ellen b.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14531430948905935301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-45583126673498266932014-02-05T16:40:28.568-05:002014-02-05T16:40:28.568-05:00I do like this show but I missed some of it and wi...I do like this show but I missed some of it and will have to catch up.<br />Merle.........Merlesworldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00573975763012762631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-91789212995834559062014-02-05T16:02:12.454-05:002014-02-05T16:02:12.454-05:00I agree with Debbie, I love all my children the sa...I agree with Debbie, I love all my children the same but definitely have different relationships with all six, which makes it seem sometimes I love one more than the other. It works both ways. One must look at their feelings toward us to make sure it does not come off as more love when it is actually better relations. I said some where Bates is definitely gonna blow sometime.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04721708092323894355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-85919343730088630362014-02-05T15:41:23.421-05:002014-02-05T15:41:23.421-05:00I liked when they were in the restaurant and Cora ...I liked when they were in the restaurant and Cora came to their rescue.<br />I don't think we can love each child exactly the same because each requires something different. I know I have always gotten along with one of my kids better. But I love them both dearly. Even if one of them won't talk to me. : (happyonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14186179870233267082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-9048147596327487022014-02-05T15:32:27.441-05:002014-02-05T15:32:27.441-05:00Well first off it is much better to get to this la...Well first off it is much better to get to this later in my day so I can see everyone else's take on things. I think I agree with most. I have a little to say about loving all children equally as it is something with 4 children I have given some thought too. And the answer for me, is YES I love all of my children with the same kind of unconditional love that only a mother can. But at the same time I have VERY different relationships with all of my kids as they are all VERY different individuals. Some of my kids are soo like me it seems I might "like" them more as we hang out and talk more often, and of course with only 1 girl out of the 4 it would be hard to have my relationship with her compared, especially as she is sooo like me,....but love them more, there is no way. I agree with the others too who mentioned that some kids are just more needy than others. But again, does not mean I love them more. And now that I have gotten off onto a tangent, let me talk about this weeks show. I am with some of the others. I am WAY over Edith's poor me attitude. Mary does not treat her very well, but she is too much the victim for me. As for Mary, I would love to see her with Evelyn, though I definitely don't really like that name for a man. I loved the scene in the nursery too where true love is discussed. It was tender and sweet. But probably my favorite scene of this one was when Isobel is put in her place by the Dowager Countess. I know she is contrary and uppity, but I find her hilarious. And as for Rose, I just can't get into her much. I agree with the gal that said she could ride off into the sunset to never be seen again, and it wouldn't bother me. I am curious how Edith's situation will be handled, as in those days this was no doubt a HUGE scandal, and one that you didn't get out of very easily. Loved Cora at the restaurant, but for some reason I am NOT looking forward at all to Bates getting revenge, and Anna in a long depression. Wish they had left this whole story line out. Guess that's it for now. This is fun Vee, and I am glad you are doing it. Hope your day was good.Debbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09836655708421528876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-34918459067036654622014-02-05T15:14:57.513-05:002014-02-05T15:14:57.513-05:00I guessed that Edith was pregnant but did it actua...I guessed that Edith was pregnant but did it actually say it in the letter? I even watched a second time and still could not see the letter well -- I guess we can surmise she is. My mind can bring me to all sorts of angles on the story lines so it will be interesting to see. I loved the restaurant scene and how loving Bates was to Anna and trying to make it a good evening, he was so tender. Lady Grantham sure gave a nod to those of us who have lost things recently and assumed the worst.podsohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14880888514207597761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-61409914696831116622014-02-05T15:07:48.942-05:002014-02-05T15:07:48.942-05:00Chris...your comment "Loving one more, doesn&...Chris...your comment "Loving one more, doesn't, however, mean loving the other(s) less." is exactly the way I feel about my two sons. Thank you for saying exactly what I have been trying to say :)Debby Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02499542865677173703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-14047934712404273362014-02-05T14:59:46.034-05:002014-02-05T14:59:46.034-05:00Kristi...you are exactly right...equal in love but...Kristi...you are exactly right...equal in love but don't always like them the same!Debby Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02499542865677173703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-47986830224089230862014-02-05T14:55:46.727-05:002014-02-05T14:55:46.727-05:00Wow...thanks for all of the great information AND ...Wow...thanks for all of the great information AND insight...it's all very interesting. I am just so glad I wasn't born into aristocracy. I have always been overly modest...even as a little girl...and I don't want NOBODY dressing me...lol!Debby Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02499542865677173703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-58484402018790408472014-02-05T14:38:02.345-05:002014-02-05T14:38:02.345-05:00I totally agree with you as well, Diane & Cher...I totally agree with you as well, Diane & Cheryl. My two grown sons are as different as night and day...you would never know they had the same parents! The younger one has made great choices and is very successful...the other, unfortunately, bad choices have resulted in many tough issues and a hard life. I love my boys equally, yet I love them uniquely...one's needs are totally different than the other's as well as the prayers I pray for them are.Debby Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02499542865677173703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-20550504534709236842014-02-05T14:11:54.044-05:002014-02-05T14:11:54.044-05:00It was a wonderful episode! I loved Cora at the r...It was a wonderful episode! I loved Cora at the restaurant. It was just the perfect way to put that person back in HIS place. The Nursery scene was charming. It was truly warm and what a wonderful exchange they had. <br />I think we love our children unconditionally. However, there are times, it seems, when we sense that one child needs our love a bit more and we step up. Loving one more, doesn't, however, mean loving the other(s) less. I don't know if that even makes sense. Perhaps it is more a case of living in ~ or responding to ~ the moment. <br />I look at the difference in characters such as Anna and Edith. Anna strongly declares she is not a victim. Edith lives her life, it seems, as being one. <br />I am so sad that there are just a few more episodes this season. <br />Chris K in Wisconsinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10658359253248199893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-42461130164790269062014-02-05T13:45:21.679-05:002014-02-05T13:45:21.679-05:0019221922Veehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00618654361869856894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-14577826928071518962014-02-05T13:40:01.968-05:002014-02-05T13:40:01.968-05:00Out of the three, I, too, like Evelyn the best. I ...Out of the three, I, too, like Evelyn the best. I think far too many women overlook friends in favor of excitement.<br />Veehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00618654361869856894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-77186105301377030322014-02-05T11:35:53.457-05:002014-02-05T11:35:53.457-05:00Thanks Vee, I've enjoyed reading the comments ...Thanks Vee, I've enjoyed reading the comments and your thoughts. The nursery scene with those who had loved and lost was very touching. Good comment about Robert not knowing Edith's love language. Something for us all to ponder about our own loved ones. Little Birdie Blessingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14673752124765885843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-44938331136885430512014-02-05T11:23:37.433-05:002014-02-05T11:23:37.433-05:00I truly believe I love each of my children with al...I truly believe I love each of my children with all my heart. But I can see that I like them a bit differently, and not always the same difference. I try not to show this, without being dishonest . <br />I am enjoying this season of Downton. I did not expect to! Poor Edith. And what has happened to her beloved. I hope he has not run afoul of the Nazis. I hope he has not become a Nazi.... I hope he and Edith never move to Germany.....A tragic instance of this, with slightly different timing, is in D.E. Stevenson's book The English Air. It was reviewed here http://leavesandpages.com/2014/01/25/the-english-air-by-d-e-stevenson/Thickethouse.wordpresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17187303460677067276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-23215431486485836872014-02-05T11:17:46.424-05:002014-02-05T11:17:46.424-05:00The Language of Love is different for each person,...The Language of Love is different for each person, likewise each child. I would suspect that the usual dense Robert never figured out what Edith's love language was and so his attempts to love her "equally" meant that she didn't feel loved at all. I would advise any child that felt they were not loved in equal measure with their siblings to consider if there was a mis-match in language between parent and child. <br /><br />I also want to give a look at the scene between Cora and Anna where Cora tells Anna to chose an outfit for Cora to wear to an event. I know that in the 1910-1920 aristocrats changed clothing at least five times a day and each change took almost an hour to complete with assistance. The clothing were designed so it was almost impossible to change the clothes without assistance. During the re-enactment of life in 1910 the people involved in the project complained bitterly about having to give up five to six hours a day to stand and be dressed for breakfast, outings, dinner etc. Deciding which outfit definitely loses its charm when one is forced to decide again every two to three hours. Cora is happy reading a book and clearly would have liked to stay home but was meeting her societal/charitable obligations but was "over" making sure she was making a fashion statement. BTW...the marcelle hair style that is being worn in this era also took hours to create. I get a kick out of seeing year books from that era and seeing that all the girls took the time to have perfect waves that would be ruined at the first gust of wind!Thoughts on Life and Millinery.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15826496514403918108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-8021782701868436942014-02-05T10:47:32.078-05:002014-02-05T10:47:32.078-05:00I am with you Vee.....that was the best scene ever...I am with you Vee.....that was the best scene ever......I adore Isobel.....that seemed to me, finally revealed Mary's heart...thinking of her Matthew....all three were just wonderful in the nursery.....what a gift this show has been to so many! Estelle'shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04565205787406338559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152193618785368659.post-66228920789706384662014-02-05T10:37:43.651-05:002014-02-05T10:37:43.651-05:00Oh yes, I forgot about your question about parents...Oh yes, I forgot about your question about parents loving their children, whether equally or not. Since I was never a parent, I can't say from a direct perspective. But I do know that my parents made it quite clear who their favorites were over the years. That's not to say that all parents should be painted with the same brush. I am a firm believer that the quality of love that one shows is a reflection of the person. Generalities don't fit everyone, by definition.Donnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05347598432040432610noreply@blogger.com